Author Topic: Safe mode to run the Windows repair tool (Read 29821 times)

Boggin · « **Reply #25 on:** November 02, 2019, 03:08:32 am »

I'll ask Shane if the dual boot could cause a problem, but I'm sure other members who dual boot have also used the program okay.

In normal mode can you try the bcdedit cmd again and then go Start - type eventvwr and press enter when it comes up.

When Event Viewer has read the data, click on Error then on View All Instances of This Event in the lower right pane.

Look for date and timed stamped errors that coincide with your attempt at that cmd - clicking on any will give more info in the pane below.

If there are any can you let me know what they are.

rayburke30 · « **Reply #26 on:** November 02, 2019, 08:58:59 pm »

Tom 3/11/2019,
Below what you sent with response in Red

I'll ask Shane if the dual boot could cause a problem,
but I'm sure other members who dual boot have also
used the program okay.

In normal mode can you try the bcdedit CMD again and then go Start - type eventvwr and press enter when it comes up.
(done this in normal mode about 7.50am 3/11/2019)

When Event Viewer has read the data, click on Error then on View All Instances of This Event in the lower right pane.
(I can't find read the data tab see attached "event viewer (local)3-11-2019)

Look for date and timed stamped errors that coincide with your attempt
at that CMD
- clicking on any will give more info in the pane below.
If there are any can you let me know what they are

Boggin · « **Reply #27 on:** November 03, 2019, 01:58:35 am »

The wording is a bit different in yours but click on View events in this log in the lower right pane and then you will be able to view the date and time stamped errors.

rayburke30 · « **Reply #28 on:** November 03, 2019, 11:33:24 am »

Tom 4/11/2019,

OK will attempt to do so and let you know of results?

Ray
PS your replied-
« on: Today at 01:58:35 AM »

The wording is a bit different in yours but click on View events in this log in the lower right pane and then you will be able to view the date and time stamped errors. (I think I did it the right way see attached "Event Viewer 4-11-2019")

Boggin · « **Reply #29 on:** November 03, 2019, 02:30:20 pm »

Given what that reports, for me, suggests you will need to perform a repair install and ensure you get KB4490628 and KB4474419 so that updates will continue after July 2019.

rayburke30 · « **Reply #30 on:** November 03, 2019, 06:59:44 pm »

Tom 4/11/2019,

OK thanks I have to seriously think about?

Ray
PS I decided to install on me laptop which has Win 7 pro, and it works!

Boggin · « **Reply #31 on:** November 04, 2019, 12:22:41 am »

By that do I take it that the repair program will now boot you into Safe Mode with Networking and the bcdedit cmd produces the same output as it does on my machines ?

rayburke30 · « **Reply #32 on:** November 04, 2019, 11:56:43 am »

Tom 5/11/2019,

I meant that although, I can't get it to run properly on my desktop Win7 ultimate dual-boot with Kubuntu 14.04,
without probably doing a complete repair, I decided to install onto my laptop that has single boot to Win7 pro
and it works fine to Safe Mode on on the laptop ?

Ray

Boggin · « **Reply #33 on:** November 04, 2019, 03:13:31 pm »

That would definitely tend to point to the dual boot being the cause.

Do you select which system you boot from via msconfig/Boot ?

Does the bcdedit cmd work on that laptop ?

rayburke30 · « **Reply #34 on:** November 05, 2019, 03:40:55 pm »

Tom 6/11/2019,

you wrote and response in Red-

Posted by: Boggin
« on: November 04, 2019, 03:13:31 PM »

That would definitely tend to point to the dual boot being the cause.

Do you select which system you boot from via msconfig/Boot ? (No opensouce Grub 1.94 see attached "grub 1.98")

Does the bcdedit cmd work on that laptop ? (yes see attached "CMD-bcdedit" for laptop)

is this helpful?

Ray

Boggin · « **Reply #35 on:** November 06, 2019, 12:25:57 am »

So do you also have XP installed as well ?

Are you able to boot into Windows without going through Grub ?

rayburke30 · « **Reply #36 on:** November 06, 2019, 05:20:12 pm »

Tom 7/11/2019,

Posted by: Boggin
« on: Today at 12:25:57 AM »

Insert Quote

So do you also have XP installed as well ? (yes, when I connect thew sata cable to XP Pro and disconnect to Win7)

Are you able to boot into Windows without going through Grub ? (yes when I do the above, and also disconnect K14.04, but
being connected to either XP Pro or Win7)

Boggin · « **Reply #37 on:** November 07, 2019, 12:47:17 am »

Have you tried the repair program when you connect to Windows that way ?

rayburke30 · « **Reply #38 on:** November 07, 2019, 12:52:22 pm »

Tom 8/11/2019,

Posted by: Boggin
« on: Today at 12:47:17 AM »

Have you tried the repair program when you connect to Windows that way ?(No,but if its done that way I loose my dual boot, so whats the use of
having it, who wants to keep changing sata cables, what about copying the bcdedit.exe file from my Win7 pro Laptop to my desktop Win7 alt?)

Ray

Boggin · « **Reply #39 on:** November 08, 2019, 12:47:12 am »

You need to confirm if things work as they should when just booted into Windows.

rayburke30 · « **Reply #40 on:** November 08, 2019, 03:15:48 pm »

Tom 9/11/2019,

What about installing Windows repair on my desktop Win7 Ult in normal mode and because when
I click the tab under windows repair to jump to safe mode(that doesn't work), but when I do a restart
I use the F8 key that jumps to Safe Mode(it works like I said before), and then do the repairs in
Safe mode, by checking the repairs tab and see if one repair is to fix Safe Mode?

What your think?

Ray

Boggin · « **Reply #41 on:** November 09, 2019, 05:21:19 am »

Yes, there is a repair for Safe Mode, although I don't know what it does.

If it doesn't resolve then you will have to just boot up into Windows and see if the repair program will work as it's supposed to in just that mode.

Going back to what you said about not being able to select Safe Mode in msconfig, is Windows 7 highlighted or does the Safe Mode box become active when you click on Windows 7 ?

rayburke30 · « **Reply #42 on:** November 09, 2019, 12:17:22 pm »

Tom 10/11/2019,

Posted by: Boggin
« on: Today at 05:21:19 AM »

Yes, there is a repair for Safe Mode, although I don't know what it does.

If it doesn't resolve then you will have to just boot up into Windows and see if the repair program will work as it's supposed to in just that mode.

Going back to what you said about not being able to select Safe Mode in msconfig, is Windows 7 highlighted or does the Safe Mode box become active when you click on Windows 7 ?(in Win7 safe/normal mode the msconfig window is greyed out, cannot enter anything)

( Also. I mean when I boot up for Win7 I always get the Grub 1.99 screen, where I select the O/S-Win7, I click on to then
immediately press the F8 screen and it comes up with Win7 Safe Mode , so maybe this is a way around it?)

Ray

Boggin · « **Reply #43 on:** November 10, 2019, 01:23:05 am »

When the program prompts you to reboot after the repairs, I assume you will decline that and use Windows own Restart to get you back to normal mode ?

rayburke30 · « **Reply #44 on:** November 10, 2019, 02:29:22 pm »

Tom 11/11/2019,

Posted by: Boggin
« on: Today at 01:23:05 AM »

When the program prompts you to reboot after the repairs, I assume you will decline that and use Windows own Restart to get you back to normal mode ?(thats what I think I should do, but what you think?)

Ray

Boggin · « **Reply #45 on:** November 11, 2019, 12:46:00 am »

It's what I would do to ensure the machine booted back to normal mode.

As it can't now boot you into Safe Mode either, I would create a system image onto external media before running the repairs.

rayburke30 · « **Reply #46 on:** November 11, 2019, 02:57:24 pm »

Tom 12/11/2019,

Posted by: Boggin
« on: Today at 12:46:00 AM »

It's what I would do to ensure the machine booted back to normal mode.(OK will give a go)

As it can't now boot you into Safe Mode either, I would create a system image onto external media before running the repairs.
(I do have a clone copy to my Bkup Dual boot Drive)

Ray

Boggin · « **Reply #47 on:** November 11, 2019, 03:01:26 pm »

Okay - see how it goes, but I would have performed the repair install by now.

rayburke30 · « **Reply #48 on:** November 11, 2019, 07:12:09 pm »

Tom 12/11/2019,

Posted by: Boggin
« on: Today at 03:01:26 PM »

Okay - see how it goes, but I would have performed the repair install by now.(what mean " performed the repair install by now"?)
(Can't do this for about a week, but will let you know how it goes?)

Boggin · « **Reply #49 on:** November 12, 2019, 01:00:48 am »

When I come across a reported fault as was reported in your Event Viewer, I would have performed the repair install then, but any boot problems would have had me doing the same.