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Restore Point on Windows Repair
« on: September 23, 2019, 06:08:34 pm »
I cannot understand after all of these years, why the Restore Point does not work on Windows Repair. There may be a thread somewhere on your site, but I cannot find it. It would be soooo nice it it did.

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Re: Restore Point on Windows Repair
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2019, 11:51:35 pm »
That's my main beef with the program also. I had tried many times (Windows 7) to create a restore point with WR without success but now only ever use Windows GUI to do so. Registry Backup and Restore always  seems to work as intended.
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Re: Restore Point on Windows Repair
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2019, 01:06:47 am »
I've found the same although it once created one on my Win 7 machine.

I've mentioned this to Shane but not sure if he's been able to replicate it.

I always create a system image before test running any new version because of changes it makes to the Win 10 apps so I am then able to restore from.

Another new member who has used the program is also in trouble because he thought the program had created a restore point.

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Re: Restore Point on Windows Repair
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2019, 06:01:10 pm »
- The problem is NOT located in WR but in Windows itself. So, don't blame WR but blame Windows 7, 8 (??) and 10 (??) instead.
- Windows will make such a System Restore Point (SRP) every say 2, 3 or 4 weeks even when nothing important has changed. It's called something like "Planned Restore Point". Only when major things have been changed (such as a new (Windows) update or a new program installed) or any of the mysterious, unknown conditions have been met then Windows will make such SRP.
- So, when the user wants let WR make a SRP then it will be Windows who decides whether or not such a SRP will be made and when.

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Re: Restore Point on Windows Repair
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2019, 06:07:24 pm »
- With some GOOGLEing I cam up with the following article:

https://www.lifewire.com/what-is-a-restore-point-2625988

But I don't trust this information. I think the interval between creating 2 SRPs is much larger (than 7 days for Windows 7).

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Re: Restore Point on Windows Repair
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2019, 11:17:13 pm »
I haven't attempted to use the Create a Restore Point in WRAIO for some time because I don't trust it but I do remember that, when I did, the process took an impossibly short time to complete and the Restore Point created didn't work. Using Windows 7 to create the Restore Point would produce one that did work. I recollect that the size of the Restore Point created by WRAIO was considerably smaller than that created by Windows, reinforcing my belief that the problem lies with WRAIO.
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Re: Restore Point on Windows Repair
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2019, 11:27:03 pm »
- No, the decision on how much to put in the SRP is made by Windows.

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Re: Restore Point on Windows Repair
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2019, 11:38:49 pm »
Well, if that's the case, I'll have to do some more tests to see exactly what's going on with my system when I've got time. But, like Boggin and others, I don't rely on Restore Points - I always back up my hard drive before carrying out any critical changes.
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Re: Restore Point on Windows Repair
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2019, 12:29:20 am »
Regardless of what Windows does you can create a manual restore point at any time, although I don't know if this is how WR creates it.

I just know that it has never created a restore point on my Win 10 and only once on my Win 7.

On this Win 10 machine Windows hasn't created a restore point after the 16th of this month and the only restore point showing is a Manual one I made on that date.

Windows is supposed to create a restore point usually every 7 days but only when your machine is in a quiescent state.
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Re: Restore Point on Windows Repair
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2019, 09:15:30 am »
- Perhaps System Restore has some "secret options" that can be used to push Windows into making a (large) SRP. I tried to GOOGLE it but to no avail