Author Topic: (Solved) why win xp could not decode to actual pw, when win seven does show (Read 47721 times)

jraju · « **on:** May 01, 2016, 09:45:53 pm »

hi, if one forgets the active passwords of their wifi, there are tools to recover it in windows seven. but in xp, eventhough there are some tools , it could not correctly change to text . why, even when online tools are failing in this regard.
if you attempt, thro online, then ofcourse, it does the work , but the resultant output in entire machine language, which no one could decipher.
is there a way to read the hexadecimal manually. normally it stores as sixty four digit, could you throw some light on how to decode these hex codes. i did not find any useful link to accomplish this task.
is it correct that hex is a two digit code, that has to be decoded. pl enlighten , experts

Boggin · « **Reply #1 on:** May 02, 2016, 01:38:12 am »

In Win 7 no special tools are necessary to view the password.

Open Network and Sharing Center - click on the Wireless connection then on Wireless Properties and under the Security tab you will see the password, generally hidden but which can be unhidden.

While I don't have any experience of XP, the procedure should be similar.

It may also be displayed in the router in the Wireless Set up.

jraju · « **Reply #2 on:** May 02, 2016, 02:20:05 am »

Hi, boggin,

I am having a combo modem, having both adsl and wireless. The wired connection is my pc having win 7. If i remove the ethernet , there is no connection established
the problem is there is no wireless connection shown in the PC having windows 7. The wireless is only showing in the laptop. My modem is having combo , having adsl and wireless both combined. When wired it shows only lan connection details.
In the laptop having wireless connection, i could see the passwords, but could not know, as the other confirm password is greyed . I could get the 64 hexadecimal code with the help of software. Nirsoft fails on active connection, it gives hex for the previous changed pw. Magic beam gives the active hex decimals also and i need to decode it.
Boggins, if the hexadecimal code is 64 for all the pws, irrespective of the number of letters or alpha used in pw, then how to decode them. if suppose, one pw for test has five characters, it also has 64 hexadecimals and it says that i could use this in the password to get the connection in xp. but i could not decipher what is in those hexadecimal . Moreover all are given in 64 digits.

Boggin · « **Reply #3 on:** May 02, 2016, 03:23:53 am »

I think they use 128bit encryption now, although it may still be 64 bit in XP - don't know.

As you can Ethernet connect, let's treat this as a no wireless connection problem.

First thing you need to do is to check if Wireless is turned on.

Toggling F8 on a desktop may do it and have a light for when it's off or on - a laptop may use a FN+F key combo but your computer user manual will tell you which keys you use.

Do you get a wireless connection when you boot up into Safe Mode with Networking as AV programs can block connectivity.

If still no wifi then right click on the wifi icon in the system tray and open the Troubleshooter to see what that reports.

Does the wifi icon have a yellow alert, red cross or is it just a blank screen with an antenna ?

Go into Device Manager/View/Show hidden devices and look for any yellow alerts, red crosses or black downward pointing arrows.

Non-Plug and Play Drivers can also have yellow alerts next to it.

Expand Network adapters and right click on the wireless one and under the General tab will show its status.

This can be that it's working properly or will have an error code.

Give us some feed back on those and we'll see where we can proceed from there, but you can also see if power cycling the modem and router will get you connected.

Switch off all computers, the modem and router as well as disconnecting all cables for a couple of mins.

Reconnect the cables except the Ethernet, then switch just the modem on until all of the lights are on and steady then do the same for the router.

Switch just the problematic computer on without Ethernet and check for connectivity.

Don't forget your restore points if this is just a recent problem.

jraju · « **Reply #4 on:** May 02, 2016, 03:37:23 am »

Hi, there is a separate light for wireless, and it could be enabled thro, modem settings. if you uncheck wireless connection , it is off. I know it is on.
Second, i do not have any wireless settings shown in tray in desktop pc. But the same is shown, in laptop, where i am using wireless service.
I do not also find manage wireless network in my network settings, in the left pane. It only has adopter settings.
If i remove the ethernet connection, total connection is lost, even i could not get connection on laptop, even though the wireless light is on.
I have enabled the wireless connection, thro the LSP and changed the password there.
I was asked for the first time, in laptop, when i try to establish the connection of internet to laptop.
So, the possibility of allowing the wireless connection, is stored in xp and could be recovered as 64 hexadecimal key. I will try to remember the program i used to get the hexa code. nirsoft has a software, but it could not get the active connection code. It shows previous ssid and codes.
The other program, capture the hexa code, but there must be a way to decode it to the actual.
The xp version, due to previous , may not have the decryptor to do more than that.
Why there was no settings for wirelss in the desktop computer. i will try all the things including show hidden icons.

Boggin · « **Reply #5 on:** May 02, 2016, 03:58:54 am »

Does the Desktop have a wireless card fitted and have you previously been able to connect with WiFi previously with it - read and try all of my suggestions, otherwise I can't know what you have tried or not.

jraju · « **Reply #6 on:** May 02, 2016, 04:08:35 am »

Hi, i do not have a specific card for wireless , other than blue tooth device .
i have enclosed the network settings in this post.

jraju · « **Reply #7 on:** May 02, 2016, 04:15:45 am »

hi, my device manager network settings , show hidden icons

Boggin · « **Reply #8 on:** May 02, 2016, 04:39:19 am »

Have you ever been able to connect wirelessly with this adapter ?

I don't have any experience of Bluetooth but you may have to unplug it and set it back up again.

http://money.howstuffworks.com/how-to-connect-internet-using-bluetooth.htm

Can you open a cmd prompt and enter ipconfig /all

Right click in the text area and click on Select all and press enter, then paste into the reply box.

jraju · « **Reply #9 on:** May 02, 2016, 04:53:32 am »

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\intel>ipconfig/all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : intel-PC
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domain.name

Ethernet adapter Bluetooth Network Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Bluetooth Device (Personal Area Network)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1B-10-00-2A-EC
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : domain.name
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet
NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-16-76-94-DB-5F
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::7593:3539:2801:5955%11(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . :
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, May 02, 2016 2:36:14 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, May 03, 2016 2:36:13 PM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : fe80::6e72:20ff:fe78:ba8f%11
192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 234886774
DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-1E-78-CE-68-00-16-76-94-DB-5F

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Tunnel adapter isatap.domain.name:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : domain.name
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{B70E5F1C-A8FA-4003-BEC0-FE8764ED0154}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:0:8e36:ad5c:10d9:e2e:3f57:fefc(Prefe
rred)
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::10d9:e2e:3f57:fefc%14(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

C:\Users\intel>

Boggin · « **Reply #10 on:** May 02, 2016, 05:12:30 am »

You haven't answered if you've been able to connect with this device before.

Bluetooth is normally used to connect to other devices and to enable WiFi on the computer where a card isn't fitted, you would normally use a wireless dongle.

I've never come across someone using a Bluetooth dongle to this end before.

Did you edit out the DHCP IPv4 address from the ipconfig ?

jraju · « **Reply #11 on:** May 02, 2016, 05:18:20 am »

Hi, Yes .
i never used this blue tooth device for connecting to wireless devices. I used bluetooth only to copy files from computer to mobile.
when i click manage wireless connection, thro search, it is said that it is not enabled. what is meant by that. Of course, there is a switch on the modem back to enable this. Should i power on the switch.
If i power off, and try with laptop connection, it is connecting thro settings in the router page.
i do not know much about that switch , which is on and off switch, should i switch on that switch to get that enabled. I am new to the switch part.
yes , i just edited the prefered ip number

jraju · « **Reply #12 on:** May 02, 2016, 05:29:19 am »

Hi, by default, the wireless is on thro the modem settings. If by switch off , the wireless lights off with external play. There is one more switch wps, i do not know what to do with it. Is it wireless power switch.
But when wireless is connected , the computer should see it ok.
why it does not see it, and how to work around this problem.
when i open the manage wireless settings , it says that it is not enabled. how to enable. I have the settings made in router pages for both bb and wireless connection as normal

Boggin · « **Reply #13 on:** May 02, 2016, 05:40:29 am »

You would normally enable a device in Device Manager by right clicking on it and selecting Enable, but I didn't see any evidence that it was disabled as that would normally have put a black downward pointing arrow next to it.

As I've said, I've never known anyone using a Bluetooth dongle to enable WiFi on their computer but have a look through that Bluetooth set up article I've linked to see if you have it set up correctly - it isn't a Plug and Play and needs additional settings to get it to work.

jraju · « **Reply #14 on:** May 02, 2016, 05:53:44 am »

I have never tried blue tooth to set up wireless connection for laptop or computer . it is a dongle like pendrive which could be plugged or unplugged.
I went to manage wireless settings to see that wireless not enabled. I went to services.msc and then went to wlan auto config, i set it to automatic from manual . Still, i could not find any wireless settings in the tray or network settings.
how to enable the wireless in windows seven

jraju · « **Reply #15 on:** May 02, 2016, 11:43:50 pm »

Hi, please see this enclosure

jraju · « **Reply #16 on:** May 03, 2016, 12:45:07 am »

Hi, Boggins, i want to know a little about microsoft loopback adaptor. Could this be used to bridge connection with wireless network.
I just tried to install microsoft loopback adapter, which i did successfully. It has added a LAn in the comuter other than the actual one i was having. This is named with lan2.I just selected these two lands and right click and click bridge connection.
I did get a network because of this process.
I do not know how to go about .
Should i have a separate wireless adopter, other than the one i have
How to go about the status of wireless in my computer. please

jraju · « **Reply #17 on:** May 03, 2016, 12:46:11 am »

forgot to add the present stage

Boggin · « **Reply #18 on:** May 03, 2016, 01:17:43 am »

There is no need to edit out a DHCP IPv4 address as it's only an internal address assigned by the router.

If it starts 169. then DHCP hasn't been able to assign it an address and that has been assigned by Windows, so it's best to leave the info from an ipconfig /all intact.

I'm not familiar with any router switches that would facilitate what you describe.

If it's an ISP supplied router, then I suggest you contact them for guidance on this or if practical, buy a proper wireless dongle.

I think this is for your locale, but I don't recognise the currency symbol.

http://www.amazon.in/Wireless-USB-Adapters/b?ie=UTF8&node=1375441031

Most routers have a WPS button, but it's advised not to use those to connect as it does it without the need to enter the password which makes it vulnerable to crack.

As for the loopback, it's something I've never used and looking it up have found these two articles which may be of help.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/839013

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc708341(v=ws.10).aspx

jraju · « **Reply #19 on:** May 03, 2016, 01:31:58 am »

Hi, I understand the risk, so , instead of deleting anything, i just restored my system back to a previous SRpoint.
Ok, How to get the details then on the windows 7 system about wireless connection. It is said that it is not currently enabled with a folder showing green signals. What is the meaning only god only knows. The folder if clicked does not do anything and stay.
Boggin, how to know that my adapter is capable of giving wireless access.
It is REaltek rtl 8139/810x/family fast ethernet NIC.
Should i have to buy or connect a wireless adapter to get the wireless status.
Now, as the laptop has inbuilt wireless hardware , it is getting the wireless access, but as computer is wired with ethernet, this information is not reflected in the pc. is it correct.
Is there any pen drive type of adapter, so that i could buy and just use the pen drive port .
###This is where i tried to bridge the connection, thro msoft loopback. The problem is it is a virtual LAN, and i have to assign a ip to get connected. I do not know , more than that.
I would love to hear from you regarding how to enable the wireless with my computer. If i simply right click the adapter and click bridge, it asks for atleast two lan. There i chanced the MLB adapter.

Boggin · « **Reply #20 on:** May 03, 2016, 01:43:10 am »

I think we are talking at cross purposes...

Is it the Win 7 laptop that is wireless capable but it isn't working ?

Is this the same machine that you have the Bluetooth dongle plugged into and if so, does wireless work when you remove the Bluetooth dongle ?

jraju · « **Reply #21 on:** May 03, 2016, 01:59:59 am »

Hi, boggins if you browse this subject, you may know that the xp is having wireless adapters so , i could browse thro internet that it is getting from my ethernet connection with dlink combo modem.
My windows 7 , so connected with ethernet with dlink combo modem. I hope that you understand.
my windows xp could not get me the password , which is in hex format, by a software, so i have asked you the query at the topic.
If only i could access those wireless settings in windows 7, it could easily be had as per your suggestion in the beginning of your replies.
that is the place where i tried all the suggestions by you , to see any settings that could be shared with the laptop , so that i could get the pw.
Should i have the wireless adapter to establish the connection with wifi as pointed in the link here
http://technopaideia.blogspot.in/2013/11/frustrating-but-ultimately-successful.html

Boggin · « **Reply #22 on:** May 03, 2016, 02:12:47 am »

Let's just work on one machine at a time.

Describe exactly what is happening or not with the Win 7 laptop.

jraju · « **Reply #23 on:** May 03, 2016, 02:16:32 am »

Hi, again
Laptop is having windows xp wireless wireless settings shown
desktop computer is having windows 7 wired network realtex adapter LAN wireless settings not shown.

Boggin · « **Reply #24 on:** May 03, 2016, 02:34:24 am »

So your XP laptop is okay ? and you are having problems with the Win 7 desktop which doesn't have a wireless NIC fitted ?