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Re: Getting no updates
« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2016, 12:08:12 am »
I mean, things are exactly as they were after first restore: Windows Update says the Windows is up-to-date, but it isn't, last updates are from June 2015.

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Re: Getting no updates
« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2016, 02:17:09 am »
At least you now have a green check for updates.

You should still be getting updates until April 2017 and other than setting your update settings to auto and waiting for them to come through, I don't know what else to suggest.

You could try these cmds from an admin cmd prompt to see if a clean out would help gee them up.

The SoftwareDistribution cmd will remove your update history but have no effect on already installed updates and you can reverse those by reversing the ren cmds.

The forum may allow you to copy & paste these cmds to the cmd prompt to avoid any typos where they will auto run, although the last one may not execute until you press enter.

net stop wuauserv

net stop cryptSvc

net stop bits

net stop msiserver

ren C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution SoftwareDistribution.old

ren C:\Windows\System32\catroot2 catroot2.old

net start wuauserv

net start cryptSvc

net start bits

net start msiserver

Then enter exit to close the cmd window.

Reboot and run the check for updates again.


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Re: Getting no updates
« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2016, 10:01:36 am »
Hi Boggin

I still did not run those commands; I had run some that seemed alike, before, and they did not produce any effect.
I tried to install some updates manually from Microsoft Download Center, then a box came out: Windows Update Auto Installer, and a progression bar showing a never ending movement...  It seems that even trying it manually, Windows Update remains in charge... nothing was installed, except Microsoft Silverlight, for which my browser (I. E. 9) was saying it was not updated and was allowing to do so; so, now there is in Programms a new one installed, Microsoft Silverlight with today's date, but I had it already (not visible in Programms).
Other than this, it is the same situation...

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Re: Getting no updates
« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2016, 10:19:04 am »
Silverlight wouldn't have updated if you had the current version, but for that to update - that sounds promising.

MS servers for Vista seem to have a very low priority which could be why your check for updates returns you are up to date.

If they are going to come then I think they will on their own.

As long as you have your update settings to auto and given that the Checksur log was clean, I'd just forget about them and get on with your life.

As WR or the SURT as well as other WU fixes you have run - whatever the problem is, I think it's on MS's end.

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Re: Getting no updates
« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2016, 01:26:24 am »
Well as to Silverlight it does not seem to have been an update, seems more like a reinstall...

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Re: Getting no updates
« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2016, 01:41:24 am »
If you already had Silverlight then an update would normally come through Windows Updates.

Have you checked update history ?

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Re: Getting no updates
« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2016, 01:05:22 pm »
I remember, when everything was working properly, to receive updates for Microsoft Silverlight.

This time, when I responded to that message box in Internet Explorer 9 to update Silverlight, it seems to me that it was installed, not updated; as I already told, everytime I try to download an update from Microsoft Download Center, it does not work, because all I get is a box saying Windows Update Auto Installer acting like trying to download the selected update, but never ending to do it, that's why I think Windows Update is not leting to update out of its control.

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Re: Getting no updates
« Reply #32 on: March 24, 2016, 04:38:20 pm »

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Re: Getting no updates
« Reply #33 on: March 25, 2016, 03:10:33 am »
Which antivirus program are you using and have you tried the updates with that disabled ?

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Re: Getting no updates
« Reply #34 on: March 25, 2016, 04:38:11 am »
Avast free is my anti-virus, and, yes, I had it disabled for a while ... anyway it had never been an obstacle to updating before...

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Re: Getting no updates
« Reply #35 on: March 25, 2016, 04:46:52 am »
If your Check for updates is still green and as neither SURT or the Windows trouble shooter appear to have found anything wrong with your system, unless Event Viewer has anything recorded, then I think your only obstacle to getting any newer updates is MS itself.

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Re: Getting no updates
« Reply #36 on: March 26, 2016, 06:21:27 am »
How does that happen? Is there a way to overtake it?

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Re: Getting no updates
« Reply #37 on: March 26, 2016, 07:28:29 am »
And still I do not get why, when trying to download updates manually, the box "Windows Update Auto Installer" keeps "running"  and does not install anything either.

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Re: Getting no updates
« Reply #38 on: March 26, 2016, 10:28:44 am »
So do you actually have any updates by KB numbers that to can manually try to download ?

See if you can get this one to download and install https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/download/details.aspx?id=42642

If it fails then you should get an error code.

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Re: Getting no updates
« Reply #39 on: March 27, 2016, 02:08:55 pm »
Hi Boggin

I downloaded that update, opened it, then a box popped out, and at the end said NET Framework 4.5.2 had been repaired, telling to restart the computer, which I did.
For the moment everything seems to be as before. What should I expect from this download?

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Re: Getting no updates
« Reply #40 on: March 27, 2016, 02:20:13 pm »
I was wanting to see if it was capable of getting an update with or without producing an error.

Give this one for IE 9 a go - it was released Aug 2015 and at least should afford you some protection.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=48419

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Re: Getting no updates
« Reply #41 on: March 28, 2016, 04:32:53 am »
Hi Boggin

I tried; what's happening is that I have the already mentioned Windows Update Auto Installer box telling "looking for updates" for a long time. It seems that this will end as many times before: the box will stay indefinitely till I switch off the computer.

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Re: Getting no updates
« Reply #42 on: March 28, 2016, 07:15:56 am »
Did that IE update download and install okay ?

If it did then I still think that you are at the mercy of MS.

I would contact them and ask if they are still sending out updates for Vista.

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Re: Getting no updates
« Reply #43 on: March 28, 2016, 07:37:24 am »
It did not download or install; just kept the box I told about, "running" for 20 minutes, maybe, then I shut the computer down.

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Re: Getting no updates
« Reply #44 on: March 28, 2016, 07:44:52 am »
Just for clarification, you weren't doing anything else but clicked on the download button for that update ?

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Re: Getting no updates
« Reply #45 on: March 28, 2016, 08:53:22 am »
I have seen the checking for updates take HOURS. It is just Microsoft update. You have to give it time. Start it and have it check before you head to bed and see how it is in the morning.

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Re: Getting no updates
« Reply #46 on: March 28, 2016, 09:06:02 am »
I'm waiting for feed back on that IE 9 update I'd linked to see if it could be manually downloaded.

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Re: Getting no updates
« Reply #47 on: March 29, 2016, 12:13:03 am »
Right.
Then opened it in the bottom left side of the browser and there came the box.

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Re: Getting no updates
« Reply #48 on: March 29, 2016, 12:35:11 am »
Not sure what you mean by that.....

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Re: Getting no updates
« Reply #49 on: April 01, 2016, 12:54:47 pm »
As I said, It didn't instal that IE9 update, but it was dowloaded to my "downloads" folder. When I opened it, the Windows Update Auto Instaler popped out "looking for updates", and so it remained for about 20 minutes for ...  nothing.

Today I have been working with the computer for about 6 hours, and, again, nothing...
I would try Shane's suggestion (leaving the computer on for one night); isn't there any danger doing so?