Author Topic: Ethernet NIC works in 7 not xp on same laptop (Read 50346 times)

Boggin · « **Reply #25 on:** October 13, 2014, 03:59:57 pm »

Wonder if it's worth changing the Wired AutoConfig to Automatic and Starting it ?

It would mean it will be on all of the time - if it works, but will only be effective when you wire up.

sfeinbe · « **Reply #26 on:** October 13, 2014, 04:18:14 pm »

Can't remember if I tried that (getting lost in all the stuff I've tried), but I did force start it. Didn't help.

sfeinbe · « **Reply #27 on:** October 13, 2014, 04:49:21 pm »

I noticed a few minutes ago that my desktop computer, always connected via ethernet cable to router, doesn't start wired auto config, yet it always works! I just turned on the ailing laptop to do some comparison and discovered that it connects via ethernet cable, but very slowly as the attached screenshot shows. I'm now using driver version 5.810.1218.2012 for the wired NIC.

Boggin · « **Reply #28 on:** October 14, 2014, 01:16:42 am »

Are you using the same Ethernet cable for the laptop as you are for the desktop and is the download speed on the desktop as it should be ?

sfeinbe · « **Reply #29 on:** October 14, 2014, 01:22:35 am »

Quote from: Boggin on October 14, 2014, 01:16:42 am

Are you using the same Ethernet cable for the laptop as you are for the desktop and is the download speed on the desktop as it should be ?

No, not the same cable. However, remember that when I boot the laptop into Windows 7, the speed is excellent on the same cable. The desktop speed is also excellent.

sfeinbe · « **Reply #30 on:** October 14, 2014, 10:18:30 am »

An aside. I found working drivers for the audio!! For anyone else going crazy after trying well over a dozen drivers for XP 32 bit, they came from this link:

http://www.driversguru.com/hardwareid-HDAUDIO---FUNC_01-_-VEN_111D-_-DEV_76D9-_-SUBSYS_103C3387

scroll down page to:

IDT_HD_Audio_6469_xp_win7_win8.zip

sfeinbe · « **Reply #31 on:** October 14, 2014, 01:45:47 pm »

The attached screenshot is from a Realtek diagnostic.

sfeinbe · « **Reply #32 on:** October 14, 2014, 02:14:04 pm »

Shane wrote:

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But I wonder if you need a older driver to do the trick. I have a folder full of the older drivers that I use in my automated installs of XP, it has the older realtek drivers, I could yank them out and post them for you, then you can try to manually add each driver and have the network card use it and see how it does.

I've tried so many drivers by now... Yes, please post them. It took me countless tries for the audio, but it finally worked. Unless you have a better idea...I hope!

Boggin · « **Reply #33 on:** October 14, 2014, 02:35:45 pm »

It's possible the IRQ error could be causing the MAC Loopback error, although I've never come across it and not sure if it's just peculiar to XP - but go Start - Run - type msinfo32 - press enter - expand Hardware Resources/IRQ and that will show the status of each and which are sharing.

There's also Problem Devices when you expand Components you could check out.

Edit - I've found out roughly what the Phy and MAC Loopback are.

sfeinbe · « **Reply #34 on:** October 14, 2014, 03:26:49 pm »

See attached for NIC IRQ. The problem devices were just two that didn't have drivers installed yet, but I have them and they worked.

Boggin · « **Reply #35 on:** October 14, 2014, 03:40:34 pm »

So does that mean Ethernet speed is okay now ?

Shane · « **Reply #36 on:** October 14, 2014, 05:53:00 pm »

How is it working now? Just curious if I still need to grab those older drivers for you.

Shane

sfeinbe · « **Reply #37 on:** October 15, 2014, 01:18:44 am »

The problem remains. I've managed to find working drivers for everything else. When the sound actually came on, it was almost an epiphany!!

Boggin · « **Reply #38 on:** October 15, 2014, 04:53:27 am »

Can you run that Realtek Diagnostic tool again and check to see if anything else is in Event Viewer ?

sfeinbe · « **Reply #39 on:** October 15, 2014, 05:17:13 am »

Same as before. See screenshots.

Boggin · « **Reply #40 on:** October 15, 2014, 10:56:45 am »

You could uninstall the LAN driver in Device Manager, leaving the software box unchecked then Action/Scan for hardware changes or reboot and let Windows install one of its WHQL drivers.

Are the USB Host Controllers the only items that the GBE is sharing with ?

AMD's graphics drivers deal with those and as you will only have Win 7's, as far as I know for the HD 6320 - wondering if it's worth using the auto detect in XP as they could be the cause of the conflict, although you could try uninstalling them in Device Manager to see if that has any effect on the LAN speeds. http://www.amd.com/en-us/markets/game/downloads

A reboot or Action/Scan for hardware changes will reinstate them but create a restore point first as a belt & braces.

sfeinbe · « **Reply #41 on:** October 15, 2014, 11:40:31 am »

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You could uninstall the LAN driver in Device Manager, leaving the software box unchecked then Action/Scan for hardware changes or reboot and let Windows install one of its WHQL drivers.

Did that. Windows just reinstalled a Realtek driver.

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Are the USB Host Controllers the only items that the GBE is sharing with ?

Yes, just as you saw in the screenshot.

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AMD's graphics drivers deal with those and as you will only have Win 7's, as far as I know for the HD 6320 - wondering if it's worth using the auto detect in XP as they could be the cause of the conflict, although you could try uninstalling them in Device Manager to see if that has any effect on the LAN speeds. http://www.amd.com/en-us/markets/game/downloads

I've been playing around with an XP partition restored from a backup that had no device drivers installed, except for the hard drive. I did that to isolate both the sound and wired NIC device drivers from all other device drivers. I only installed video drivers today, so they weren't a factor up till now.

Boggin · « **Reply #42 on:** October 15, 2014, 12:32:02 pm »

This isn't getting any easier

Try uninstalling the USB Host Controllers then - something is causing the IRQ.

With a desktop a simple solution would be to move the NIC to a different slot, but with a laptop, the LAN is built into the motherboard.

sfeinbe · « **Reply #43 on:** October 15, 2014, 04:55:02 pm »

I did as you suggested. No difference. Yes, it isn't getting any easier. Except that at least I've discovered that I can use a work-around with a USB to ethernet adapter.

Shane · « **Reply #44 on:** October 16, 2014, 11:33:36 am »

In the bios, is there a plug and play setting? And if so it is set to enabled?

In most bios there is a irq plug and play option where you can set it to yes to allow windows to control the irqs. Of course this is on normal motherboards for system I build, I dont normally see that option on store built machines, but worth a look.

Shane

sfeinbe · « **Reply #45 on:** October 16, 2014, 01:58:22 pm »

Unfortunately this laptop's BIOS settings are very few and limited. I can't do as you suggested. It has frustrated me when I first attempted to install XP. Would've been much easier if I could've tweaked the storage controller settings, then installed drivers afterwards for the advanced settings.

Shane · « **Reply #46 on:** October 16, 2014, 02:07:21 pm »

Not sure if possible, but if you are able to still load up windows 7 you can check the irq settings it has set for the network and compare them to the xp side. I dont remember if you had windows 7 on another drive or on dual boot or not installed at all any more.

If you dont have it installed another trick would be to download the ubuntu live cd, you can run ubuntu off the cd (Or usb thumb drive) and see if the network works fine for it, if it does then you can check the irq settings there as well.

Shane

sfeinbe · « **Reply #47 on:** October 16, 2014, 06:00:42 pm »

Screenshot attached from 7. Can't make much sense out of it.

jraju · « **Reply #48 on:** October 19, 2014, 05:49:18 am »

Hi,
Shane, I think the problem is only in the driver update. Normally those previous versions drivers were supplied as cds and there would be some update which one would forget to update. Then these drivers became obselete, as is the system os, and therefore most companies would not give supporting drivers for the same product. Windows 7 auto detects the drivers from the connections and also from window updates.
The solution would be be look in to the other drives, where there is usually a back of all the software supplied with the laptop. I would advise you look out for a similar laptop in xp configurations and then copy the drivers from their folder to your computer and activate it by installing the exe files from those folders. Normally i find some numerical exes as drivers stored in other drives in xp system of the laptop.
It seems that the thread owner first installed the windows 7 and then xp without supported software cds of the xp.

Update: Please see this link also
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/870702
If it is mother board drivers, it is best to go to their site or alternate sites and download the ethernet drivers

sfeinbe · « **Reply #49 on:** October 19, 2014, 07:51:39 am »

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It seems that the thread owner first installed the windows 7 and then xp without supported software cds of the xp.

Windows 7 came with the computer. I added XP to dual boot.

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I would advise you look out for a similar laptop in xp configurations and then copy the drivers from their folder to your computer and activate it by installing the exe files from those folders.

Yes, that would be the solution. As I've found out through searching all over and on the HP laptop support forum it would be MY laptop from which others would get drivers for XP! I will be posting all the drivers I've found on the HP support forum. I already started.

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Update: Please see this link also
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/870702

That link says

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How to troubleshoot wireless network connections in Windows XP Service Pack 2

This is not a wireless connection nor is it sp2. It's sp3.