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Strange behaviour in Windows 7
« on: September 01, 2013, 06:34:43 am »
Hello
I have, for a few weeks now) some problems with my Windows 7 - 64 Bits
I solved some, but one important poblem remains :
I need to create new User Accounts, because some programs I need to use, don"t install because my current user name contains "foreign" character (I'm french and the company who built my computer gave the name "Propriétarie") and the "é" seems to be a troublemaker
So, when I go to >>Control panel >> User accounts, I can access :
- Create a password for your account
- Change my image
- Change the parameters (UAC)

But I CAN NOT
- Change my account name
- Change my account type
- Manage another account

I can click on these lines, but nothing happens

I can create user through the command       net user  Username /add
or  net administrators username /add
and they appear as selectable at boot time
I can also delete them through command line

I tried to use a utility called "ReProfiler" : it does not start on this system, when it runs perfectly on other systems

I ran  Chkdsk /F : no problem
I ran   Microsoft Malicious Program : no problem
I ran sfc /scannow : it seems to stop after 12% and indicates some problems

So, it seems that some parts of Windows 7 are corrupted

Any help will be welcome  _    Have a good day

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Re: Strange behaviour in Windows 7
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2013, 12:12:01 am »
Have you tried this one.
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/147545-user-profile-folder-change-user-account-folder-name.html
I think by carefully reading this you may be able to change the french name to english name.
hi, shane, I think that it will work for him
The Bottom line is "Check your hardware first if it supports the task you try".

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Re: Strange behaviour in Windows 7
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2013, 09:19:28 am »
Thanks
The problem is that I can't even rename my current user or create a new one  :sad:
I think some windows file are corrupted
I'll run aSFC /SCANNOW command to check
And I could have to "install-repair" Windows  :sad:
Have a good day

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Re: Strange behaviour in Windows 7
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2013, 06:38:13 pm »
Hi, You could easily rename your current account, by going to the Admin log on. It will not be usually visible when you normally boot. You have to enable it in the user accounts in lusrmgr.msc and then reboot. You get a log on icon for administrator also. By logging in to it you could do whatever you want. Pl try. SFC scannow only checks for corruption in the windows protected files. Repair windows is the last option, as you will loose all your downloads. By logging in to administrative account, a default account by microsoft, you could do and undo so many things.It is always better to have a non password or password protected admin account, so that you could control the system effectively. Hope you understands. I want opinion be endorsed by Shane. Because i have learnt so many tricks from him in my day to day computer browsing. Post it whether you could access on admn log on
« Last Edit: September 02, 2013, 06:41:33 pm by jraju »
The Bottom line is "Check your hardware first if it supports the task you try".

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Re: Strange behaviour in Windows 7
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2013, 08:14:07 pm »
Create a new account and make sure it has admin rights, then in that account try to see if the user accounts will work. That will at least tell me if the problem is simply under your account or if it is system wide :wink:

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Re: Strange behaviour in Windows 7
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2013, 01:37:21 am »
Thanks very much

I just ran lusrmgr.msc  but it says thayt my Windows 7 is a "Family Premium" edition and thus this component can't be used. It suggests that I use "User Account" in "Control Panel", but this brings me back where I'm stuck : no way to create an account
I think I have an "Admin" account that should be the "standard" Microsoft admin account and the image associated with it appears and I can select it at boot time

In the "User Account" management in "Control" panel, some of the commands / links are preceded by a small icon representing a shiend (blue and yellow). Does this mean something ? I wonder if this means that I should have some special rights (admin ?) to use them and I wonder if I lost the administrator rights on my account ?

I'm sorry about my language, but english/american is not my native language ;-)

If I can't create an account with administrative rights through the Control panel interface, is there any other way do do it (for instance, by using a command ?) If the answer is "Yes", what command(s) should I use ?

Thaznks to everybody  Have a good day

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Re: Strange behaviour in Windows 7
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2013, 01:43:20 am »
Hello again
Just found another "strange" thing : as I was "fooling around" in the User Account controls, I've seen the "Parental control" : I clicked on the link and found that I could create a new user account ! I clicked on the link and it seems that from there I could enter a user name for a new account !
I did not go further and I don't want to add trouble to something that's probably already messed up !!!!

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Re: Strange behaviour in Windows 7
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2013, 02:36:47 am »
Hi, Sharing of one knowledge is the key motto of this site.
               Why cannot you enclose the strange blue and yellow icon with print screen
The Bottom line is "Check your hardware first if it supports the task you try".

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Re: Strange behaviour in Windows 7
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2013, 04:55:45 am »
Hello
I captured the "user Account" screen in "Control panel" and attach it to this post
I can run the 1st, 2nd and 6th (from top to bottom on right) commands
On the left panel, I can access all commands
Thqnks for your time

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Re: Strange behaviour in Windows 7
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2013, 04:07:25 pm »
Did you every try it from under another account like I asked?

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Re: Strange behaviour in Windows 7
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2013, 05:42:13 am »
Shane
Many thanks for your answer ... and your time
As i suspect that something went wrong in the User management of my Window system, I tried to have an "extensive" view of the situation

1) When I boot, I am prompted with 5 icons to choose from
They are (frpom left to right
   - Admin
   - Serge Fleury
   - Serge
   - Serge Fleury ****
   - SYF

*** Don't know why there is a second  "Serge Fleury"  ?
And to add the complexity, when I select this account, I'm prompted for a password... when I never defined an account with a password, as I am the only user of this computer

I booted all the other accounts one by one, and they all behave the same way : no access to some commands to manage User accounts

So, I used "reProfiler" (a utility I found on the Web) to see how users are associated with Profiles
I summarized all the information in the attached Excel Spreadsheet

I also extracte the "ProfileList" key from the Registry
I edited this file, to separate entries for each User and to add the ProfilePath in a "readable" way

I attach both file to this post

I belive that there is some mess in the User management

What I would like to have (in a "perfect" situation) is
    3 User Accounts

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Re: Strange behaviour in Windows 7
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2013, 05:53:37 am »
Ooops !
My post was sent before I completed it

So, that's the end

What I would like is :
   3 User Accounts
       Admin  (The standard Microsoft built-in Admin)
       Serge (With admministrator rights)  as the "normal" account I would use on a day to day basis
       SYF (with administrator rights, as a "backup in case of Serge's failure)

Right now, it seems that the  "good" "Serge Fleury"  account is associated with the "Propriétarie" profile where I have all informations collected during thzese last 3+ years

What woul be perfect ;-)
    Admin       account     associated with    Admin     profile
    Serge        account     associated with    Serge     profile   ***
    SYF           account     associated with    SYF        profile   ***

*** These account/ profiles should be able to access everything   "Propriétarie"   profile is doing today

May be it's a dream, but who know ?

Thanksngain   have a good day


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Re: Strange behaviour in Windows 7
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2013, 12:05:15 pm »
Have you done a repair install on Windows yet?

It isnt a fresh install and you will keep all your files.

Follow this guide
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/3413-repair-install.html

And you will need a Windows 7 with SP1 disk, which you can grab here
https://sites.google.com/site/linuxlablibrary/windows-iso

Shane

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Re: Strange behaviour in Windows 7
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2013, 01:56:30 pm »
Thanks
I'll try "again"
I tried a few weeks ago, but it seems that the install-repair did not recognize the disk where to perform the installation.
And i did not go further, as the backup-restore within Windows did not work (and I wanted to take a backup before tryin the nstall)
Now, it seems that it works better and i bought some software to backup my complete disk (with 2 partitions) before attemting to "install-repair"
ould you habve an ida why the disk was not recognized ?

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Re: Strange behaviour in Windows 7
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2013, 02:04:51 pm »
Not sure. Make sure to download the ISO with SP1 on it and burn that image to a disk.

You have to use software that can do that like imgburn.

Shane