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General Computer Support / Re: Windows 7 Service Pack 1 - 64 Bit, issues with Windows Update & Boot DVD!

« on: November 19, 2016, 05:52:41 pm »

Well, for the moment, I'm patiently waiting, as to redo all the software installs I have done in the past 2 weeks and starting over again, is not something I really want to put myself through as that is something that just shouldn't happen, kinda like putting a dog down because it has fleas.  I know it's the Microsoft way, but really it shouldn't be.

GuruSR.

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General Computer Support / Re: Windows 7 Service Pack 1 - 64 Bit, issues with Windows Update & Boot DVD!

« on: November 19, 2016, 10:15:14 am »

6.1.7601 is the version, as expected and it's licensed properly.

The Convenience Rollup was to avoid having to download the ~200 updates post SP1.  Plus SSD'ed PCs won't update past SP1 due to an issue in Windows Update that was repaired somewhere in the first ~200 updates, just no idea which one did it.

My machine has an SSD in it from inception, so I couldn't update at all without doing thee Convenience Rollup unless I cloned it to a normal HDD and let it do the first 200 by itself, then clone it back onto the SSD and let it continue.  The rollup was faster, but at a cost of compatibility issues.  Though I tried one of the fixes and it was giving errors for everything, so that may shed a light on it.

The confusion why consent.exe won't come up on the Update settings change or the Hide Update request, is confusing.  All the other control panels pull up the request as needed.  I tried your Windows Update repair and it didn't make any difference, was hoping it would.

GuruSR.

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General Computer Support / Re: Windows 7 Service Pack 1 - 64 Bit, issues with Windows Update & Boot DVD!

« on: November 18, 2016, 12:11:15 pm »

The recovery console on XP could be installed and it shows up as a boot option (from the OS menu directly), there is no such way to do this above XP, unless you use a Recovery Partition which isn't easy to build from scratch and a large waste of space just to do so.  The recovery console (all) fails to recognize the version of Windows on the machine, not even the 10 one does.  Normally when you go to enter the recovery console, it says it's searching for versions of Windows, since the Convenience Rollup, it doesn't do that at all, instead it merely complains the version on the machine doesn't match the disc and click OK to continue, there will be no way to run the recovery console safely, until I see about solving the issue with the Convenience Rollup, but I can wait on that, as it's being backed up using Acronis (full device), so that isn't an issue unless I really don't want to restore from a previous backup, though I know when I had Ghost (15, which refused to install on 7, known issue, so went to Acronis since Ghost is dead for consumer), I would backup the ruined system, restore from backup and then use the ruined backup to restore files and such out of it to get back any data I may lose in the transition, so I know that is still workable, but the Repair Console/Disc refusing to even look at the Windows makes me think there's something the Convenience Rollup did wrong that ruined a registry entry or something that's making the software not even check the BCD for Windows.

GuruSR.

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General Computer Support / Re: Windows 7 Service Pack 1 - 64 Bit, issues with Windows Update & Boot DVD!

« on: November 18, 2016, 07:41:56 am »

Not wanting to jump into the mess that is Windows 10, the Anniversary Edition has quite a lot of issues, none of which I want to add to my existing ones.

I did, however fix the WMI issue, after doing multiple searches (limiting the information), I found a repair that Microsoft nicely hid regarding the issue I was running into, apparently it *can* happen on install of SP1, ran the script and no more WMI issues, it deleted the BVTConsumer (as I expected it'd find) from the WMI Repository.

No errors on boot, the only issues now aren't major (the Windows Update settings & hide updates do nothing) and the Recovery Console fails to recognize the version of Windows on the computer (meaning it doesn't actually "look" for any, it simply fails instantly).  F8 doesn't show a Recovery Console as there is no Recovery Partition on this machine, so it isn't installed.  I would, but that requires a ton of work, as I've not found an easy way to install it on any machine past XP.

GuruSR.

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General Computer Support / Re: Any websites owned by Google have trouble loading on my computer.

« on: November 18, 2016, 07:34:11 am »

Line 2 of your tracert is your provider, that timeout means the modem on the street level is possibly faulty, try rebooting your modem (power off and on) and after it resyncs, try the tracert again, that line 2 shouldn't ever give you a timeout, if it does, then the line 1 (your modem) is having issues talking to the other one.

GuruSR.

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General Computer Support / Re: Any websites owned by Google have trouble loading on my computer.

« on: November 17, 2016, 08:33:01 pm »

Hit Start, type:  cmd
Press enter, type this:

tracert google.com

Any locations that show a * (timeout), make not of the number it is, or ALT+Print Screen and paste that into Paint and show the window's contents.

Non-Google sites work fine?  Chances are, the provider you're with is routing through a site where Google is being directly affected (meaning there's a machine in the path to Google sites that's failing), you should see about finding the domain name of that machine (if there is one), you can usually google the IP or the name and get some sort of website to contact them, show them the picture of your tracert (traceroute) output as they may not be aware it's failing.

GuruSR.

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General Computer Support / Re: Windows 7 Service Pack 1 - 64 Bit, issues with Windows Update & Boot DVD!

« on: November 17, 2016, 08:28:10 pm »

This is a clean install, the Convenience Rollup was next, after that it's not liking the boot dvd, sfc /scannow says repeatedly, 100% fine.  I'd rather not do a fresh install again, it won't make any difference, if I do everything identical to the first time, I'll get the same results.  The other guy hasn't got it wrong, as Microsoft has put fixes out to repair these issues and more are being added.  Patience on that is my ticket there.  Just would like to solve the issue with Windows Update's Ok (Settings) and Hide Update not working, thats the big thing in my book, plus the WMI, think it's from one of the uninstalls I did for the Bluetooth adapter I tried to install, but without any means to find out whether or not it's the issue, as there doesn't seem to be a WMI viewer around, as I tried the WMI repair on AIO and it caused more grief than good, so I restored before it.

The DVD issue is really minor, as I do regular backups (Acronis) and restoration using that, is the only real thing I'd need to do, but not having a full recovery console to possibly fix the boot sector is an issue.

GuruSR.

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General Computer Support / Re: Windows 7 Service Pack 1 - 64 Bit, issues with Windows Update & Boot DVD!

« on: November 17, 2016, 02:00:50 pm »

I'm avoiding it because the author of the site for the Convenience Rollup bugs, lists important updates which will get removed during Disk Cleanup.

Though I really would like to solve this no consent request for the settings and hiding of updates in Windows Update, somewhat annoying I can't change anything.  They've got the shield on them and they're not grayed out, click them and nothing happens.

GuruSR.

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General Computer Support / Re: Windows 7 Service Pack 1 - 64 Bit, issues with Windows Update & Boot DVD!

« on: November 17, 2016, 07:15:03 am »

I've checked my Win 7 laptop and found I don't have KB3125574 installed.

However, after each month's updates I run Disk Cleanup as an admin and that cleans out the WinSxS folder of obsolete updates.

Give this a try if you've never done it by going Start - type disk cleanup then right click on Disk Cleanup and select Run as administrator and then see if your install disk is rejected - I assume you are using the correct disk given how many you have ?

Reboot a couple of times for it to reconfigure the updates.

If you've never run this before, you will see that it will free up a few GBs of space and then a defrag may be beneficial.

Actually, the KB3125574 is the Convenience Rollup which has an issue with it removing installed updates (that hasn't been rectified, so  I'm not about to try Disk Cleanup because of that, until that issue is fixed, I'm not about to damage my updates).  As for defragging, this is on an SSD, defragging an SSD reduces overall lifespan and won't improve performance at all.  And since this is a new install, GBs of space won't come back, as the Covenience Rollup is actually lighter than all the separate updates, so I have less used space than someone who did them all one at a time.

GuruSR.

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General Computer Support / Re: Windows 7 Service Pack 1 - 64 Bit, issues with Windows Update & Boot DVD!

« on: November 16, 2016, 04:34:22 pm »

Well I have all updates installed except these three that I have hidden - KBs 3020388, 2923545 and 2952664 and my Toshiba Win 7 is in the process of a repair install having passed the compatibility check using my universal Win 7 ISO disk.

The Locale and language is English (UK).

Do you want me to send you a couple of these install disks ?

All versions of Windows from XP up, have identical Recovery consoles on each platform change (XP, Vista, 7, 8, 8.1 and 10), Service Packs won't matter, nor will language versions, the issue is, it's not recognizing the installed version as being the same after the Convenience Rollup was done.  I'm thinking now that it *could* be a language issue which I am going to wait for the person dealing with the issues on the Rollup to get back to me on, since there *is* a fix for the language issue for Canadians (which I am one, but did install it as US to avoid any issues).  I also have access to all versions of Windows 7 64bit, along with other OSs, I have the International English version (UK) and it will make no change to the operation of the recovery console.

GuruSR.

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General Computer Support / Re: Windows 7 Service Pack 1 - 64 Bit, issues with Windows Update & Boot DVD!

« on: November 16, 2016, 10:25:45 am »

Has nothing to do with the OEM or Retail version (I install both on PCs on a regular basis, this issue is aimed at recognizing the version of windows after the Convenience Rollup messed with it), has to actually do with the Convenience Rollup.  I was basically asking if anyone else here had used it and run into the same situation.  The person who's been working on the Rollup's bugs, has the information I gave him.  Try using the Convenience Rollup on an SSD'ed Windows 7 SP1 64bit either OEM or Retail, see if you can get the same result with the boot media failing to recognize it.  (English US, default settings on install.)

You can see the results of these issues here:  http://windows-update-checker.com/FAQ/ConvenienceRollupKB3125574-Issues.htm.  I assume he'll be adding mine to the list.

My biggest issue is the WMI error and the consent requests not showing up with Windows Update Settings or Hide Update.

GuruSR.

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General Computer Support / Re: Windows 7 Service Pack 1 - 64 Bit, issues with Windows Update & Boot DVD!

« on: November 16, 2016, 06:40:44 am »

1.  The Windows 7 SP1 64bit disc is the latest version (blue sleeve OEM, confirmed by Microsoft as the last run of discs).
2.  The DVD was used prior to the Convenience Rollup to Repair the machine to use System Restore to back out of a GPU tweaking software for ASUS with respect to the NVidia card, was BSODing the machine even in Safe Mode.
3.  After the Convenience Rollup, I needed to actually boot the machine up using the same DVD as I wanted to restore something again, this time, was instantly told the versions didn't match (no searching for versions, it instantly fails).
4.  The group going after finding fixes for the Convenience Rollup are also informed of this, I passed on the information to him, so he could try to track down the issues.  There are a bunch of them, which some of which Microsoft has fixed, but don't sound related to my issue.
5.  My biggest issues are:  The WMI and the Windows Update Settings "Ok" and "Hide Update" are clickable, but don't bring the UAC up, other settings in other control panels do.  Windows Update *is* processing updates fine as it did the monthly rollup earlier and a few others.

GuruSR.

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General Computer Support / Re: Windows 7 Service Pack 1 - 64 Bit, issues with Windows Update & Boot DVD!

« on: November 16, 2016, 04:48:02 am »

You'll notice I said SP1 + "Convenience Rollup" (Found here https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/kb/3125574).  That I believe has caused most of the issues, except the Windows Update and WMI ones.

GuruSR.

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General Computer Support / Re: Windows 7 Service Pack 1 - 64 Bit, issues with Windows Update & Boot DVD!

« on: November 15, 2016, 12:01:59 pm »

I'll clarify the Windows install.

The DVD is a Windows 7 Service Pack 1.
The Windows install is a Windows 7 Service Pack 1 + Convenience Rollup + the rest of the updates past it.

The DVD doesn't work with the installed version of Windows for "Repair", complains instantly as noted.

GuruSR.

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General Computer Support / Windows 7 Service Pack 1 - 64 Bit, issues with Windows Update & Boot DVD!

« on: November 15, 2016, 07:25:56 am »

First, tried the repair AIO to see about a few things, the relinking of things solved issues I didn't know were there (that I saw anyways) and I did try the WMI repair, which blew up Windows Update completely and didn't solve the issues (System Restore put it back to beforehand).  I'm not really seeing a ton of issues, but I'll list them below:

1.  WMI error:  Event filter with query "SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32_Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 99" could not be reactivated in namespace "//./root/CIMV2" because of error 0x80041003. Events cannot be delivered through this filter until the problem is corrected.
2.  Windows Update *WORKS*, but seems to not be able to talk to the UAC for Settings changes OR Hiding Updates.  The Settings "OK" and "Hide update" are not greyed out and show the UAC shield icon!  You can click on the Ok in Settings so long as you haven't made any changes, if you DID make changes, clicking Ok does nothing (well, it flashes to show you pushed it).  Hide Update also does nothing.  But, it *IS* installing updates properly.  And I had to install gpedit.msc just to change the time settings on Windows Update.
3.  Post Windows 7 SP1+ Convenience Rollup, my DVD can no longer be used for recovery or "Repair", as it states instantly that the version of Windows I'm trying to repair is different from the version of Windows on my DVD (which was used to initially install it).
4.  Now this isn't an issue, but something is leaving the registry open at logoff, no clue how to track that to see if a fix can be found for that.

I did try your Windows Update repair, all it did was remove the history and let me rescan, the Settings & Hide updates are still selectable and do nothing.

GuruSR.