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General Computer Support / Re: Ethernet NIC works in 7 not xp on same laptop

« on: October 20, 2014, 01:29:52 pm »

Wish I could, (really!) but I have to leave for an appointment in a few minutes.

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General Computer Support / Re: Ethernet NIC works in 7 not xp on same laptop

« on: October 20, 2014, 01:22:31 pm »

I wish I'd been on a little earlier!  It's 4:11pm eastern (daylight savings) time now.  Your idea of using teamviewer is excellent!  I really appreciate your interest and apologize for taking up so much forum space and your time.  I also appreciate the fact that you didn't arrogantly decide that I'm a moron for wanting XP to work on the laptop.  I've received that kind of disdain elsewhere in the form of the question, "Why do you want to use an obsolete OS?"  I finally had to answer with the only answer that would quiet them: personal preference.

I guess I've become too fixated on the problem.  It's really annoying since I've been able to get all the other devices working.  At least I'll be able to post all the drivers I've on the HP forum for anyone else doing a Google search.  I've discovered Mediafire can be useful for this.  I'll post a link here also, if you like, for all the drivers.  After I reload XP from backup (at a much earlier install point), reinstall the drivers, make sure everything works again...except for the ethernet adapter of course.

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General Computer Support / Re: Ethernet NIC works in 7 not xp on same laptop

« on: October 20, 2014, 07:07:49 am »

Hi, I meant , when you are in xp platform

So let me get this straight.  I download Windows 7 drivers, go into compatibility mode while in XP, and choose what?  Compatibility mode in XP has ONLY the following choices:
-windows 95
-Windows 98 / ME
-Windows NT 4.0 (service pack 5)
-Windows 2000

I don't understand how a Windows 7 driver will work in Windows XP while attempting to use any of those compatibility modes available.

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General Computer Support / Re: Ethernet NIC works in 7 not xp on same laptop

« on: October 20, 2014, 06:28:39 am »

Try this link
http://www.hp-drivers-download.com/download/hp/sp56998.exe.html
Download this driver to your computer and then right click select properties and select compatible tab and then select Windows xp system, instead of win 7, to give the compatibility and then close.Then right click the same exe and then choose Run as administrator. I think that this will fix your problem

I've been to that site before.  You download DriverNavigator_Setup.exe from that site and that link.

Are you saying that I download a driver meant for Windows 7, go into my Windows 7 partition, give XP compatibility, then it will turn a Windows 7 driver into a Windows XP driver?

This is the first time I've heard of that.

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General Computer Support / Re: Ethernet NIC works in 7 not xp on same laptop

« on: October 19, 2014, 07:51:39 am »

It seems that the thread owner first installed the windows 7 and then xp without supported software cds of the xp.

Windows 7 came with the computer.   I added XP to dual boot.

I would advise you look out for a similar laptop in xp configurations and then copy the drivers from their folder to your computer and activate it by installing the exe files from those folders.

Yes, that would be the solution.  As I've found out through searching all over and on the HP laptop support forum it would be MY laptop from which others would get drivers for XP!  I will be posting all the drivers I've found on the HP support forum.  I already started.

Update: Please see this link also
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/870702

That link says

How to troubleshoot wireless network connections in Windows XP Service Pack 2

This is not a wireless connection nor is it sp2.  It's sp3.

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General Computer Support / Re: Ethernet NIC works in 7 not xp on same laptop

« on: October 16, 2014, 06:00:42 pm »

Screenshot attached from 7.  Can't make much sense out of it.

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General Computer Support / Re: Ethernet NIC works in 7 not xp on same laptop

« on: October 16, 2014, 01:58:22 pm »

Unfortunately this laptop's BIOS settings are very few and limited.  I can't do as you suggested.  It has frustrated me when I first attempted to install XP.  Would've been much easier if I could've tweaked the storage controller settings, then installed drivers afterwards for the advanced settings.

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General Computer Support / Re: Ethernet NIC works in 7 not xp on same laptop

« on: October 15, 2014, 04:55:02 pm »

I did as you suggested.  No difference.  Yes, it isn't getting any easier.  Except that at least I've discovered that I can use a work-around with a USB to ethernet adapter.

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General Computer Support / Re: Ethernet NIC works in 7 not xp on same laptop

« on: October 15, 2014, 11:40:31 am »

You could uninstall the LAN driver in Device Manager, leaving the software box unchecked then Action/Scan for hardware changes or reboot and let Windows install one of its WHQL drivers.

Did that.  Windows just reinstalled a Realtek driver.

Are the USB Host Controllers the only items that the GBE is sharing with ?

Yes, just as you saw in the screenshot.

AMD's graphics drivers deal with those and as you will only have Win 7's, as far as I know for the HD 6320 - wondering if it's worth using the auto detect in XP as they could be the cause of the conflict, although you could try uninstalling them in Device Manager to see if that has any effect on the LAN speeds. http://www.amd.com/en-us/markets/game/downloads

I've been playing around with an XP partition restored from a backup that had no device drivers installed, except for the hard drive.  I did that to isolate both the sound and wired NIC device drivers from all other device drivers.   I only installed video drivers today, so they weren't a factor up till now.

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General Computer Support / Re: Ethernet NIC works in 7 not xp on same laptop

« on: October 15, 2014, 05:17:13 am »

Same as before.  See screenshots.

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General Computer Support / Re: Ethernet NIC works in 7 not xp on same laptop

« on: October 15, 2014, 01:18:44 am »

The problem remains.  I've managed to find working drivers for everything else.  When the sound actually came on, it was almost an epiphany!!

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General Computer Support / Re: Ethernet NIC works in 7 not xp on same laptop

« on: October 14, 2014, 03:26:49 pm »

See attached for NIC IRQ.  The problem devices were just two that didn't have drivers installed yet, but I have them and they worked.

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General Computer Support / Re: Ethernet NIC works in 7 not xp on same laptop

« on: October 14, 2014, 02:14:04 pm »

Shane wrote:

But I wonder if you need a older driver to do the trick. I have a folder full of the older drivers that I use in my automated installs of XP, it has the older realtek drivers, I could yank them out and post them for you, then you can try to manually add each driver and have the network card use it and see how it does.

I've tried so many drivers by now...  Yes, please post them.  It took me countless tries for the audio, but it finally worked.  Unless you have a better idea...I hope!

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General Computer Support / Re: Ethernet NIC works in 7 not xp on same laptop

« on: October 14, 2014, 01:45:47 pm »

The attached screenshot is from a Realtek diagnostic.

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General Computer Support / Re: Ethernet NIC works in 7 not xp on same laptop

« on: October 14, 2014, 10:18:30 am »

An aside.  I found working drivers for the audio!!  For anyone else going crazy after trying well over a dozen drivers for XP 32 bit, they came from this link:

http://www.driversguru.com/hardwareid-HDAUDIO---FUNC_01-_-VEN_111D-_-DEV_76D9-_-SUBSYS_103C3387

scroll down page to:

IDT_HD_Audio_6469_xp_win7_win8.zip

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General Computer Support / Re: Ethernet NIC works in 7 not xp on same laptop

« on: October 14, 2014, 01:22:35 am »

Are you using the same Ethernet cable for the laptop as you are for the desktop and is the download speed on the desktop as it should be ?

No, not the same cable.  However, remember that when I boot the laptop into Windows 7, the speed is excellent on the same cable.  The desktop speed is also excellent.

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General Computer Support / Re: Ethernet NIC works in 7 not xp on same laptop

« on: October 13, 2014, 04:49:21 pm »

I noticed a few minutes ago that my desktop computer, always connected via ethernet cable to router, doesn't start wired auto config, yet it always works!  I just turned on the ailing laptop to do some comparison and discovered that it connects via ethernet cable, but very slowly as the attached screenshot shows.  I'm now using driver version 5.810.1218.2012 for the wired NIC.

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General Computer Support / Re: Ethernet NIC works in 7 not xp on same laptop

« on: October 13, 2014, 04:18:14 pm »

Can't remember if I tried that (getting lost in all the stuff I've tried), but I did force start it.  Didn't help.

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General Computer Support / Re: Ethernet NIC works in 7 not xp on same laptop

« on: October 13, 2014, 02:44:37 pm »

Shane, I originally used the 5.826 drivers from the latest link you gave me.  Which means I was wrong, I wasn't originally using older drivers than the two mentioned in that guy's post you quoted.  I was using NEWER drivers.  His, however, even though older, didn't work.

I tried several drivers, but maybe an older set, older even than Realtek driver versions 5.810.1218.2012 and 5.806.1026.2012 might work.  I don't know, but I'm willing to try it.  Still haven't succeeded on the sound drivers at all yet.

The attached is what I get about the wired auto config and the dependencies.

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General Computer Support / Re: Ethernet NIC works in 7 not xp on same laptop

« on: October 13, 2014, 11:12:23 am »

Tried both minutes ago.  Neither worked even though they were later driver versions than the one I had installed.  Wired auto config never started.

Slight update: I unplugged then plugged in the ethernet cable.  CPU usage didn't spike significantly at all.

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General Computer Support / Re: Ethernet NIC works in 7 not xp on same laptop

« on: October 13, 2014, 07:41:39 am »

Check the event viewer and see if it says what other service failed to start.

I checked under "system" in the event viewer and found two errors, both related to this: hpdskflt

I don't think that's causing the issues.  I also rolled back xp to a very early install before most updates and device drives.  I installed ONLY the audio and NIC.  Same problems as I have now with one difference: the volume control speaker appears and all audio functions under control panel appear to be working...except that it isn't and the device has a yellow exclamation mark in device manager.

NIC: wired auto config still doesn't start.

Note that I DID update four things from Microsoft.  One was the NIC and one was the audio device.  There was an HP update as well, which I think is related to hpdskflt.  I can't remember the fourth, but I don't think it was an issue.

Other notes:
-ran chkdsk: all ok
-ipconfig: gave ip address of 192.168.8.103

If you can get me the laptop make and model and get me the hardware IDs from my program for the nic and sound then I can use those to find a older model HP that had that same hardware and has the proper xp drivers listed

In cases like this the trick is to find a different HP model with the same hardware.

Good idea!  It's an HP DM1-4010us Entertainment PC.  The attached is a screenshot from the BIOS setup.

From your program:
Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller,Realtek Semiconductor Corp.,(0) OK,Net,5.786.504.2011,PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8168&SUBSYS_3387103C&REV_06|PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8168&SUBSYS_3387103C|PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8168&CC_020000|PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8168&CC_0200

Microsoft UAA Bus Driver for High Definition Audio,Microsoft,(0) OK,System,5.10.0.5010,PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_1314&SUBSYS_3387103C&REV_00|PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_1314&SUBSYS_3387103C|PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_1314&CC_040300|PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_1314&CC_0403

Microsoft UAA Bus Driver for High Definition Audio,Microsoft,(0) OK,System,5.10.0.5010,PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4383&SUBSYS_3387103C&REV_40|PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4383&SUBSYS_3387103C|PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4383&CC_040300|PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4383&CC_0403

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General Computer Support / Re: Ethernet NIC works in 7 not xp on same laptop

« on: October 13, 2014, 05:19:21 am »

Partial update:

-Changing speeds for NIC: no change

-As you can see by the attached screenshot, error 1068 applied to the wired NIC.

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General Computer Support / Re: Ethernet NIC works in 7 not xp on same laptop

« on: October 13, 2014, 04:49:57 am »

Shane: what you describe is very close to my situation, almost identical.  HP doesn't have drivers for XP on this computer.  I've had to look all over for device drivers.  Some were provided by Microsoft during an update.  I can't even remember now where I got the drivers for the NIC, but I'm fairly certain it was from the link given in Boggin's first post.  As for the audio, I've tried so many drivers I can't count them anymore, including one from Microsoft included in an update.  None have worked.

My next steps will probably be Boggin's.  Or I may just restore the partition to a much earlier (just a few days ago) state and see what happens if I try to install the audio and NIC.  Since I have all the drivers for everything else (even though it was VERY difficult to install some of them), I could restore all the other devices easier than trying to fix these two.

A word of caution: if anyone else wants to do the same for this laptop beware of any site claiming to have a collection of drivers for XP that work for this computer.  They lie.  One or two *may* work.  Most won't.  Worse, most are just trying to get you to download their driver software or install garbage-ware onto your computer during the install process.  I avoided all the attempted garbage-ware installs, but only just.

I'll be back with an update later.

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General Computer Support / Re: Ethernet NIC works in 7 not xp on same laptop

« on: October 12, 2014, 05:56:33 pm »

You're certainly on to something!  Restarted in safe mode with networking.  Wired auto config didn't start.  Got an error 1068 message.   Then I realized that I didn't really give a proper test in regular mode because I forced a start through Anvir taskmanager!  So I restarted Windows normally, making sure that the wireless adapter was turned off and the ethernet cable plugged in.  Wired auto config didn't start!  It also didn't throw an error 1068 error when I forced a start.

I then found this "Answer" with a google search:

http://tinyurl.com/6dk73jt

I edited the registry, after first carefully backing it up with ERUNT, as described in the Answer.  It did nothing.  Rolled the registry back with ERUNT.

So wired auto config won't start with an ethernet cable plugged in and connected to a router.  Not in normal or safe mode with networking.  A forced start causes a 1068 error message in safe mode, but not in normal mode.  And the "Answer" I discovered (admittedly for a later version of Windows) didn't work for XP.

I checked to see if it's DHCP enabled and it is.  The dependencies you mentioned still didn't show up in device manager as a problem.

However, there's no question that you're on the right track and I very much appreciate it!  This may even partially explain another problem with an audio device made by the same manufacturer RealTek.  I keep thinking it's drivers (I used MANY to no avail), but it may be related to this problem in some way.  At least I hope the solution solves both problems.

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General Computer Support / Re: Ethernet NIC works in 7 not xp on same laptop

« on: October 12, 2014, 09:07:07 am »

The wireless adapter works fine and is what I'm using.

Wired AutoConfig is set properly.

Looked for the dependencies in Device Manager and they have no yellow marks.  The only one that does under Non-Plug and Play Drivers is the serial port.  Which makes sense as there is no serial port.

No yellow alert next to the ethernet adapter (first thing I sought during troubleshooting).  Under Device Status it shows as This device is working properly.  No it isn't!

I can post links to screenshots if you need them.

The above were good suggestions, by the way, and I appreciate it even if no joy yet.