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Fall back method
« on: January 02, 2013, 05:49:02 am »
My pcs are reporting that the fall back method is being used.
I watched the red and green and it said 'no' for both.
I hope the backup is still occurring and if I needed to, I could click on the date I want and the system would be restored just like it would using the volume copy service.
I know you will get it and this is only a report and not a complaint.
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Re: Fall back method
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2013, 01:47:39 pm »
Post the vss log from one of the backups and lets see what it says :-)

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Re: Fall back method
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2013, 08:26:59 am »
Shane
I hope this is attachment is legible and if not tell me what to do.
I can send more because at times they seem to differ.
One said VSS failed and fall back worked etc..
Another would be different.
Perhaps it is because I log on and take a few seconds before I click on desktop where I see the program running.
I don't know how to log on to desktop directly. I have 6 gb ram so I would think two things can be done at once.
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Re: Fall back method
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2013, 05:03:03 pm »
The volume shadow copy failed

ERROR: Selected writer 'System Writer' is in failed state!
   - Status: 9 (VSS_WS_FAILED_AT_FREEZE)
   - Writer Failure code: 0x800423f2 (VSS_E_WRITERERROR_TIMEOUT)
   - Writer ID: {e8132975-6f93-4464-a53e-1050253ae220}
   - Instance ID: {06d4133c-9f20-4172-a8b4-df21ac90d92a}

Do you have anything else running at the same time that uses the volume shadow copy?

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Re: Fall back method
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2013, 07:37:41 am »


1-I boot up
2-see a green default screen(not desktop)
3-click on it
4-a log on screen appears
5-I see the start icons and click on desktop where I then see the program running.

I have Defender's real time protection running but beside that I don't know of anything.

I think it is the sequence above as I can't get to desktop where the program is running fast enough. If I get to desktop in time the program starts and runs ok.
Either that or when the program doesn't start too quickly it works ok as I have time to get to the desktop where I see it running. I thought with 6 GB ram it would run regardless but I know very little.
I hope I am not the only one with this issue as that would mean I have to figure out what is over my head.
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Re: Fall back method
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2013, 03:01:35 pm »
If it works fine after the system is done booting up then it sounds like some program in your startup is using the VSS or the VSS is waiting on something else.

What version of Windows again?

In newer versions you can put a delay in the task scheduler for it.

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Re: Fall back method
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2013, 03:28:43 pm »
It is Win 8 Pro and my pc is 64 bit, 6 GB , 1T  with defender and MBAM.

Where would I put the delay as it sounds like it could fix it. Am I alone with this issue?

When I log on, I see the start screen then click desktop where Tweak I running.

Maybe getting to desktop sooner would help??
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Re: Fall back method
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2013, 03:35:16 pm »
I am on Windows 8 and dont have any trouble at startup with mine.

Go to the task scheduler and go to the properties of the schedule. Edit the trigger and you will see a delay option. Set it for 5 or 10 min.

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Re: Fall back method
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2013, 08:27:41 am »
Shane
I have what I need, thanks.
I could do that or just get to desktop quickly.

May I ask, when you log on do you see your program running and if so, where are you when this occurs?
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Re: Fall back method
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2013, 02:16:57 pm »
I ave it set to show and at startup. My system goes right to the desktop by default.

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Re: Fall back method
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2013, 09:40:16 am »
With 7 on the laptop  goes right to desktop and I see the program running. I was just talking to Ztruker about this. But with 8 on the desktop it goes to  startup not to desktop.
It would be a big favor if you could tell me how to get right to desktop with 8 which goes to start.
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Re: Fall back method
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2013, 12:25:05 pm »
2 ways actually.

1. I refuse to use the tiles in Windows 8. I put a start menu back and it skips the tiles and goes right to the desktop with a start menu :-)
http://www.classicshell.net/
I have yet to touch the tiles screen since I installed 8 a couple of months ago. I use it just like I am back on Windows 7.

2. I use the reg keys to auto log into windows. Edit the attached reg file and put your user name and password in then apply the reg file.

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Re: Fall back method
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2013, 02:19:07 pm »
Thank you, Shane.
Ztruker also had a couple of ways to log on to the desktop.
You guys are great.
When I get an error with Tweak's program it is probably this log on to tiles instead of desktop. When I get there quickly there is no issue.
It must be hard for you to cover all the bases. I am still sticking with Tweak's program as it works well.
Thank you for your help.
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Re: Fall back method
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2013, 03:00:18 pm »
No problem :-)

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