Author Topic: [SOLVED] Paged Pool used 9 GB RAM all time! (Read 19509 times)

Angelika · « **on:** June 10, 2020, 01:58:45 pm »

After closing all programs. I mostly use only Chrome. RAM usage is still high, even though I have 20 GB RAM.
My problem is very unique.
Most people have problems with Non-Paged or Standby.
I have a problem with Paged Pool.
Unfortunately, there is nowhere on Google to solve this type of problem.

Paged Pool used 9GB RAM all time!
Restarting the computer only helps temporarily

There were no changes in the computer, the computer works very fast, but all the time informs that there is a not enough of memory in the system (after a few hours of work!)

Paged Pool = Kernel Memory

CMci 9GB RAM

My Virtual Memory: Min 2048 MB Max 2048 MB

Boggin · « **Reply #1 on:** June 10, 2020, 02:33:07 pm »

Have you tried your restore points to prior this happening and does it also occur in Safe Mode.

When you try your restore points, check to see which programs will be affected.

From what I know of this, it's usually caused by a rogue driver.

You say there has been no change to the computer, but has any program recently been updated ?

Angelika · « **Reply #2 on:** June 10, 2020, 02:50:36 pm »

I do not change anything and do not install on the computer for a long time.
But I noticed that my computer speed up many times. So probably Windows files, drivers load into memory.
I have now downloaded the Windows optimization program: "Mz RAM Booster"and it was turned on by default:
[ ] Always Keep Windows Kernel In Memory.
Does the Tweaking tool or script allow you to optimize or disable it completely?

Boggin · « **Reply #3 on:** June 10, 2020, 03:10:53 pm »

The repair program does optimise memory but I don't know if it would be effective when you have a memory leak which that Booster program is supposed to prevent.

Did you select Recommended Settings - https://mz-ram-booster.en.softonic.com/

Have you checked Task Manager to see if anything has a high usage.

Clicking on Memory will sort to the highest user first,

You haven't said if it is the same in Safe Mode.

Angelika · « **Reply #4 on:** June 10, 2020, 03:46:03 pm »

Task Manager or Process Explorer will not show what is being loaded into physical memory. It can be all DLLs, drivers (*.sys) etc.
But it can also be Java, so the browser uses a lot of memory. Memory Not Release when use Java or JavaScript (Social-Media).

I turned off the default setting, it's fine now. The memory is being released, we'll see how the computer will work for hours.

I found interesting help and information

https://documentation.suse.com/sles/12-SP4/html/SLES-all/cha-tuning-memory.html

This problem is known in Linux (etc.)
Very strange that it occurs even on my Windows 7 system

Boggin · « **Reply #5 on:** June 11, 2020, 01:19:08 am »

Glad to see that you were able to sort it.

Had you downloaded that program before or after the memory problem ?

Angelika · « **Reply #6 on:** June 11, 2020, 02:50:56 am »

When running (JVM) Java and Google Chrome etc. are stored in kernel memory, the pools are inherently available in all. Data can never be flushed to the hard drive and is always kept in physical memory.
Of course, this seems to cause a huge increase in speed, but it causes other applications not to have enough memory to run.
If have an SSD, do not need this default option in Windows 7 x64, because the speed is still high.

Boggin - I downloaded the program.
it showed me that many "Tweak" options have already been enabled by default in the system.
I turned it off and it's OK now.

All programs closed, and still using 11GB.
https://postimg.cc/hX3gzHt8

But now it's fine when turned off.

Boggin · « **Reply #7 on:** June 11, 2020, 03:38:04 am »

I was trying to ascertain if that program was the cause of the memory problem, but you haven't said when you had downloaded it - before or after ?

Angelika · « **Reply #8 on:** June 11, 2020, 04:23:53 am »

No, you misunderstood.
The program was not the cause of the problem, but it allowed to verify which settings exist in the System, which are actually already enabled.
The program simply confidently modifies something in the registry or uses some commands that allow you to optimize the System.
I downloaded the program, because probably only the only program that easily turned off the settings.
I don't know the commands CMD or the appropriate "Memory Management" settings (System registry and everything related to Page Pool) - if you have knowledge about this topic, share it.

And please screenshot:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management

https://i.postimg.cc/V6wghDmg/Screen-Shot-06-11-20-at-01-19-PM.jpg

Boggin · « **Reply #9 on:** June 11, 2020, 01:52:48 pm »

Okay.

I couldn't view your pic as Kaspersky snagged it as a malicious web site.

Angelika · « **Reply #10 on:** June 12, 2020, 12:46:41 am »

Boggin - Kaspersky - as usual FALSE...
The site is completely secure because it's popular image hosting.
There is still a memory leak in Chrome.
Version 78 or 79 Chrome had a memory control function, but in newer versions they removed this feature.
The previous solution solves the problem only partially, but when Chrome is running for a long time, the more memory leaks.
I guess I'll have to go back to the old version of Chrome.

https://i0.wp.com/hackersonlineclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Chrome-Tab-Freeze.png?resize=837%2C375&ssl=1

or maybe hmm...
Chrome:

Click: "[Urgent discard a tab now]"

Code: [Select]

chrome://discards/
https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2015/09/tab-discarding

Quote

Inspiration: hey there, great suspender
If tab discarding sounds familiar, it's because you've probably come across useful Chrome extensions that give you a slightly simpler version of this idea, such as the The Great Suspender. The Great Suspender aims to reduce Chrome's memory and GPU footprint by suspending tabs after a custom period of inactivity.

Boggin · « **Reply #11 on:** June 12, 2020, 06:59:34 am »

I don't have any problems with IE - go back to that.

Angelika · « **Reply #12 on:** June 12, 2020, 09:54:19 am »

What IE ha, ha, ha!!!!?!
IE = super slow open webpage/crash browser if large or JS
Chrome = superfast open any website
Are you a serious man? chrome is the best browser in the world, if you think otherwise, you live in a matrix... I use so many extension Chrome useful that it doesn't fit in the imagination

Boggin · « **Reply #13 on:** June 12, 2020, 02:12:29 pm »

You are the one with problems using Chrome - I don't get any with IE.

Angelika · « **Reply #14 on:** June 14, 2020, 01:14:36 am »

Generally, I don't have problems with Chrome if I set up a huge swap file.
For small SSDs, setting a large virtual file will run out of space for other programs and files.
You can have up to 32 / 64 / 128 GB RAM, but Chrome will still need to set up a huge swap file. Implementation of separate memory processes means it uses lots of memory when you open many tabs. This can cause performance hiccups for users who don’t have enough PAGE FILE on their computers. So if the page file is so slow, why even have it? Without a page file, your applications will crash or seriously malfunction, as any additional information that needs to be stored in RAM will simply be lost. Having a bit of slowdown to handle peak RAM demands is better than having the system go down as a whole.

IE is an outdated browser and most sites that I use no longer support this browser and will not open the page!

All extensions are very bad because they add the extension address to the address and modify it, you don't know exactly what the address is.
And no automatic loading when you click the tab.
As I need freezing, not suspend.
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/search/tab%20suspend?hl=pl

Boggin · « **Reply #15 on:** June 14, 2020, 02:41:11 am »

I have nothing more to add - I'm more than happy the way my IE works in Win 10.

Angelika · « **Reply #16 on:** June 14, 2020, 03:37:47 am »

He searched the internet, I found one of the better extensions in my opinion compared to the "Suspend Tab" type.

Angelika · « **Reply #17 on:** June 14, 2020, 04:57:47 am »

Quote from: Boggin on June 14, 2020, 02:41:11 am

I have nothing more to add - I'm more than happy the way my IE works in Win 10.

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I can’t access the site from Internet Explorer

Unfortunately, using WEBSITE using Internet Explorer will no longer work.

The latest version of the browser was developed back in 2015. In parallel with this, Microsoft began to actively develop Edge, which is what they are doing now.

The latest version of Internet Explorer has not been fully modified for many years. Therefore, security problems and restrictions on the part of web developers are expected to occur. Microsoft recently issued a recommendation to abandon IE

Angelika · « **Reply #18 on:** June 14, 2020, 07:11:24 am »

My problem High use Page Pool:

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/fltmgrsys-causing-very-high-paged-pool-memory-use/851cb867-b2a7-40df-91ab-acc29185c9c9

https://superuser.com/questions/1263991/huge-paged-pool-probably-caused-by-fltmgr-sys-what-to-do?noredirect=1&lq=1

I uninstalled the Wise Hide Folder Pro.
Memory usage does not increase after closing Chrome.

Willy2 · « **Reply #19 on:** June 23, 2020, 11:40:58 pm »

- Nope. "Non Paged pool" = memory for system device drivers.
- Watch this video:

https://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-6-RAMMap

Angelika · « **Reply #20 on:** June 24, 2020, 12:54:20 am »

"Nonpaged Pool" is not the same as "Page Pool" and not the same as "Page File". You make a mistake.

Nonpaged Pool (multi-user problem)

Page Pool - A little-known, extremely rare problem (Caused by software driver .SYS)
Use 10000 MB+ RAM
https://www.wisecleaner.com/wise-folder-hider-free.html
This is for the kernel, not the process you see in the task manager. The nonpaged pool consists of virtual memory addresses that are guaranteed to reside in physical memory as long as the corresponding kernel objects are allocated. The paged pool consists of virtual memory that can be paged in and out of the system.