What would keep programs at windows bootup from starting.

[parkd1]

Not all the programs that are set to start are load at bootup. I have found the place I think cause it has the ones in it that are not starting.

HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run   

I am running Windows 7.

[Shane]

Go to start and in the textbox at the bottom type in msconfig

When it opens, on the first tab is it set to normal startup or selected startup?

Shane

[parkd1]

Yes it is.

[Shane]

Is anything from that regkey are loading up or is it just one program?

Shane

[parkd1]

It looks like whole selection is not loading up.

[Shane]

I wonder if it is a permissions problem on there, are able to remove or add any keys to that section?

While you test that I am going to see if there is any type of policy or way to disable the startup from there that might have gotten triggered.

Shane

[parkd1]

I was thinking the same thing. I will try and remove and see what you come up.

[parkd1]

Ok it just let me remove one.

[Shane]

MSConfig is the normal way of disabling it, other things in Windows give a way
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-vista/stop-a-program-from-running-automatically-when-windows-starts

But the other way is through a group policy, I am trying to find where that policy is stored in the registry so you can see if you somehow got that enabled.

Shane

[Shane]

OK here is what I found

Run at user logon policy
To create or modify the list of programs that start automatically when you log on to your computer, follow these steps:

    Click Start, click Run, type mmc, and then click OK.
    On the File menu, click Add/Remove Snap-in.
    Click Add.
    Under Available Stand-alone Snap-ins, click Group Policy Object Editor, click Add, and then click Finish.

    Note If you do not want to edit the Local Computer policy, click Browse to locate the Group Policy object that you want. Supply your user name and password if prompted, and then click Finish when you return to the Select Group Policy Object dialog box.
    Click Close, and then in the Add/Remove Snap-in dialog box, click OK.
    In the left pane of the Group Policy snap-in, expand Local Computer Policy, expand Computer Configuration, and then expand Administrative Templates.
    Expand the System object, click the Logon object, and then in the right-pane, double-click Run these programs at user logon.
    Click Enabled, and then click Show.
    Click Add, type the name of the executable program (.exe) file or document that you want, and then click OK. You must specify the path to the file unless it is located in the %Systemroot% folder.
    Repeat step 9 to add additional items to the Items to run at logon list.
    Click OK twice.

    The items that you added to the Items to run at logon list start automatically the next time that you log on to Windows on your computer. A list of these items is located in the following registry key:
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\policies\Explorer\Run

Legacy Run at user logon policy
The legacy programs that are configured to start when you log on to your computer are listed in the following registry key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
Many third-party programs, such as RealAudio, can be included in this category.

You can either enable or disable the legacy run list. You cannot modify it directly from within the Group Policy snap-in. If you want to add items to the list of programs that start automatically when you log on to your computer, see the "Run at user logon policy" section of this article.

To specify whether you want to start the programs on the legacy run list when you log on to your computer, follow these steps:

    Click Start, click Run, type mmc, and then click OK.
    On the File menu, click Add/Remove Snap-in.
    Click Add.
    Under Available Stand-alone Snap-ins, click Group Policy Object Editor, click Add, and then click Finish.

    Note If you do not want to edit the Local Computer policy, click Browse to locate the Group Policy object that you want. Supply your user name and password if prompted, and then click Finish when you return to the Select Group Policy Object dialog box.
    Click Close, and then in the Add/Remove Snap-in dialog box, click OK.
    In the left pane of the Group Policy snap-in, expand Local Computer Policy, expand Computer Configuration, and then expand Administrative Templates.
    Expand the System object, click the Logon object, and then in the right-pane, double-click Do not process the legacy run list.
    Do one of the following:
        Click Not Configured if you want to run legacy programs at user logon.
        Click Enabled if you do not want to run legacy programs at user logon.
        Click Disabled if you want to run legacy programs at user logon.
    Note The legacy programs that are configured to start when you log on to your computer may also be listed in the following registry key:
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce
    To specify whether you want to start programs on the run-once list when you log on to your computer, follow the steps in the "Legacy Run at user logon policy" section of this article. In step 6, click Do not process the run once list, and then either enable or disable the policy.

While that is how to set a policy on to run a program it should show where the regkey is to disable as well.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\policies\Explorer\

Shane

[Shane]

OK found the policy

It is "Do Not Process The Legacy Run List

And it would be stored here in the registry if that policy got enabled on your system.

HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer

And in there would be
DisableLocalMachineRun

Shane

[parkd1]

Ok I did see one after I was able to remove it I want and told the program and clicked on the option to start with windows and it will not do it. odd. Ok I will have to take a look at what you found out later and report back to you. Thanks for all the help.

[parkd1]

I looked at what you found but have to put in what I want to run. Have you ever used the program Autoruns? It shows all that runs when windows starts. yjis is the part where it ahas programs that will run at logon is  HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run. To get them to show you have to start the program as administrator.  You can get the program here  and check it out.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals

Thinking there must be something telling windows not to run these programs or something got messed up. After I removed to see if I could and it did but now the program can not put it back.

[parkd1]

I ran registry fix from Advanced SystemCare 7 and jv16 PowerTools 2014 and did the updates for patch Tuseday for November and they are loading but back to the other problem I have and have made a post their for that.

[Shane]

OK so you dont have DisableLocalMachineRun in the registry correct?

From what I can find those are the only 2 ways to disable the startup items.

As a test, create a new user account, login to that account and add something to the startup in the run key and see if it works for that user.

That would at least help me see if the problem is something with the user account.

Oh and as a test as well, turn off UAC in the control panel.

When I make my programs I found that I had to use the task scheduler to load startup items because I could run them with admin rights, when UAC is on you cant run a program from the run regkey with admin rights.

Shane